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Holden Karnofsky on building aptitudes and kicking ass - 80,000 Hours

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Enjoyed the episode? Want to listen later? Subscribe by searching “80,000 Hours” wherever you get your podcasts, or click one of the buttons below: Let’s say that you picked a skill that’s never going to get you a direct-work effective altruism job, but you kicked a bunch of ass, and you know a bunch of other people who kick ass. So now you have this opportunity to affect people you know, and get them to do a lot of good. And they are not the people you would know if you hadn’t kicked ass. Holden Karnofsky Holden Karnofsky helped create two of the most influential organisations in the effective philanthropy world. So when he outlines a different perspective on career advice than the one we present at 80,000 Hours — we take it seriously. Holden disagrees with us on a few specifics, but it’s more than that: he prefers a different vibe when making career choices, especially early in one’s career. While he might ultimately recommend similar jobs to those we recommend at 80,000 Hours, the r

Transcript Table of Contents 1 Rob’s intro [00:00:00] 2 Holden’s current impressions on career choice for longtermists [00:02:34] 3 Aptitude-first vs. career path-first approaches [00:08:46] 4 How to tell if you’re on track [00:16:24] 5 Just try to kick ass in whatever [00:26:00] 6 When not to take the thing you’re excited about [00:36:54] 7 Ways to be helpful to longtermism outside of careers [00:41:36] 8 Things 80,000 Hours might be doing wrong [00:44:31] 9 The state of longtermism [00:51:50] 10 Money pits [01:02:10] 11 Broad longtermism [01:06:56] 12 Cause X [01:21:33] 13…

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